[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Schindel/Schendel - Ljuschitza-Radom

[Richard Benert]

Just to erase any doubts, the name "Ljuschitza" was printed in good old 
German gothic type in the newspaper.  Here's the text of the Nov. 19, 1915, 
edition:

"Gesucht werden (these people are being sought): Elisabeth Wagner geb. 
Pelzer aus Ljuschitza, Christian Wagner mit Frau und Kindern aus Nikolajews, 
Johannes Hessler mit Frau und Kindern aus Nikolajews, Philipp Müller mit 
Frau und Kindern aus Ljuschitza, Johannes Schindel mit Frau und Kindern aus 
Ljuschitza, Johann Eisenberger mit Frau und Kindern aus Nikolajews.   Alle 
diese sind Flüchtlinge aus dem Gouvernment Radom."

Interestingly, the same people appeared in another notice on Dec. 17.  This 
one began with: "Folgende Flüchtlinge suchen ihre Angehörigen:" (the 
following refugees seek their relatives [literally, "people belonging to 
them"]).  Apparently either these people all showed up in the meantime but 
without some of their relatives, or else the Nov. 19 notice was in error due 
to some miscommunication or misunderstanding, and these people had been 
there the whole time.  I'd guess the latter possibility is more likely:  all 
these people did show up together in November in Popowkina (Jost) in Samara 
province, but all had lost family members along the way.  The second notice 
was sent in by an Alexander Reis who had probably spotted the error 
committed by his relative, G.B Reis, who sent in the first one, and probably 
scolded him for being so careless.  (I'm guessing, of course).

In any case, the second notice mentions that both villages (Ljuschitza and 
Nikolajews) were in the district of Sandomir in Radom.  I hope this helps 
nail it down.  And I've got to make a few changes in the List posted on the 
website.

Dick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl Krueger" <dabookk54 at yahoo.com>
To: <Nks883 at aol.com>; <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Schindel/Schendel - Ljuschitza-Radom


> Nadine,
> You are in good hands with these comments. I did see that Luszyce on Shetl 
> Seeker but I assumed it was too far from Radom. Jerry and Howard know what 
> they are talking about. I especially like the phonetic match with 
> Ljuschitza - it is much better than the other possibilites I brought up 
> but you knew I wasn't satisfied with those. This suggests that Dick did 
> well with his translation if this is it.
> Karl
>
> --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Howard Krushel <krushelh at telus.net> wrote:
>
> From: Howard Krushel <krushelh at telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Schindel/Schendel - Ljuschitza-Radom
> To: "'Jerry Frank'" <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>, Nks883 at aol.com, 
> ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 12:17 AM
>
> According to Kneifel, Luszyca and 5 other villages were served by the
> Evangelical Reformed church in Sielec(north west of Luszyca below
> Staszow)starting in about 1840; the Bethaus (church-school)was established
> in Przeczow and in 1920 became a branch of the Kielce parish. The family
> history library has the records recorded under Poland, Kielce, Sielec
> (Staszow); 1875-1884 have been microfilmed under 1808841 it. 21-22 and
> 1808842 it.1-9; with Luszyca being situated so far from a Lutheran parish
> church, the Lutherans may have registered their births in the nearby
> Catholic church, especially in the early period of their existence.
> Howard Krushel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Frank
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:09 PM
> To: Nks883 at aol.com; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Schindel/Schendel - Ljuschitza-Radom
>
>
> Nadine,
>
> I have found one possible match which would have been within Radom
> province at the time - Luszyce, which, given the tz sound for c in
> Polish would be a very close match in pronunciation to what you
> have.  It is, however, about as far away from the town of Radom as
> you can get while still staying in the province.
>
> Use that spelling with
> http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp to find it on a map,
> just north of the Wisla River and east of Polaniec some 125 miles or
> so south of Warsaw.
>
> Now the trick will be to figure out in which parish you will find
> records.  My best guess would be Kielce for Lutheran records.  Even
> that is quite far away so you may want to check nearby Catholic
> records as they may have registered there.
>
>
> Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
> FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>
>
>
>
>
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