[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ship Manifest Emil Schmidt Help With Location

Wed Mar 19 23:35:58 PDT 2008

Hello Joan,
The picture on the link has a very bad resolution. It is not possible to
read anything.

Lydia Eberhardt

-----Original Message-----
From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
[mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Joan
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:35 AM
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ship Manifest Emil Schmidt Help With
Location

Hello to the group,

  My research generally concerns Germans from Russia in the central area of
Poland, Rypin to be specific.

  However, recently, I discovered on ancestry.com that my grandfather
apparently had a 
  brother I was unaware of, who met him when he emmigrated to Philadelphia.
This brother's name is Emil Schmidt. My mother told me that she had
relatives in the Philadephia area, 
  so this find excited me.  I did a search on ancestry to see when and where
Emil emmigrated to the USA, and it was in 1907 to Cleveland.  

  My hunch that he was indeed my grandfather's brother was confirmed by the
ship manifest
  stating his father as Gottlieb Schmidt, the same as my grandfather.

  What I cannot understand is the location that is listed.  Emil Schmidt is
about 
  eleven people down, just after the big group that is listed together.  He
is listed as 18 years old, a farm laborer, Russian nationality, German
ethnicity, Russian language, but the location is one I have never heard of
if I am reading it correctly.

  I am inserting a link to the document and hope someone can read this
location better than
  I am able.  I have not been able to find any place with this spelling in
the area I am familiar with, and now wonder if the family may have moved to
the Ukraine or Volga areas like many of the other Germans from Russia in
this group. 

  Here is the link:

  http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/Softsong/EmilSchmidt.jpg

  Any help would be greatly appreciated.   

  Joan Allen 

ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org wrote:
  Send Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list submissions to
ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://eclipse.sggee.org/mailman/listinfo/ger-poland-volhynia
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org

You can reach the person managing the list at
ger-poland-volhynia-owner at eclipse.sggee.org

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Ger-Poland-Volhynia digest..."

Today's Topics:

1. Re: Wygoda close to Ilow (Sochaczew) (Rose Ingram)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:54:01 -0700
From: Rose Ingram 
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wygoda close to Ilow (Sochaczew)
To: GPV List 
Message-ID: <008801c8894a$f55d5960$6601a8c0 at duocore>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

There also appears to be a Wygoda as you indicate, about 2 km SE o f
Niedzielska. This Wygoda is right next to a place called Chrosle/Chrusle
(and written Krushla) in Volhynian records when these people migrated.
Chrusle was given as a birth place, when in fact the actual birth took place
in Wygoda. 

So this is the right area.

Rose Ingram 

From: Jerry Frank 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wygoda close to Ilow (Sochaczew)

Interesting to see how maps disagree with each other. I checked my 
1:100,000 series modern map to see if that place still existed. I 
found nothing in that location but 2 km SW of Niedzieliska (1 km E of 
Kiernozia) it shows a Wygoda. I then looked at my 1803 Gilley map 
and it shows Wygoda Kr. in the same location as the modern map.

In any case, this seems to be a plausible location for you Wygoda.

Jerry

At 09:44 AM 18/03/2008, Rose Ingram wrote:
>Time frame is 1840's to 1860's.
>Two births in 1847 and 1850. Three older brothers living there in 
>the 1860's when they married in Gostynin and Gabin.
>
>Early this morning an SGGEE member emailed a section of an old 1839 
>map which shows a Wygoda Kr. between the present day villages of 
>Niedzielska and Zalesie.
>
>Rose Ingram
> From: Jerry Frank
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wygoda close to Ilow (Sochaczew)
>
>
> I don't see one any closer than that. What type of record and what
> time frame? In the early years the pastor covered a very large
> territory. I have found pre1810 confirmation records for locations
> as far south as Kochanow, near Rawa Mazowiecka.
>
>
> Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
> FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>
>
>
>
> At 09:32 PM 17/03/2008, Rose Ingram wrote:
> >I have found people living in Wygoda in Ilow church records.
> >
> >Is there a Wygoda close to Ilow? Has it been renamed, or does it
> >exist any more?
> >
> >There is a Wygoda south of Lowicz which village does appear in 
> Lowicz records.
> >
> >Rose Ingram
> >
>
>_______________________________________________
>Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
>Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
>Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1333 - Release Date: 
>18/03/2008 8:10 AM

Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca 

------------------------------

_______________________________________________
Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the:
Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html

End of Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 58, Issue 16
***************************************************

_______________________________________________
Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv