[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Klein, Volhynia, Menzer

[Michael Stockhausen]

Steve,
Just to add:
Karoline Berger nee Krause died 1862/75 in Pabianice

Michael

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Stockhausen" <michael.stockhausen.ff at web.de>
To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>; <sgrossmeyer at wi.rr.com>
Cc: "Giering, Angelika" <martin.giering at evlka.de>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Klein, Volhynia, Menzer


> Steve,
>
> Provided Martin Mincer and Rosine Appenzeller were actually Christian's 
> parents (I of course have not doubt that the information Al gave you is 
> correct), I can give you some more information on your ancestors:
>
> Johann Martin MÜNZER (this is the correct German name, Mincer is just the 
> polonized version) was born about 1802, probably in Effingshausen = 
> Starowa Gora, just south of Lodz. He died there in 1844 (Pabianice 
> Lutheran 1844 #27). Martin was a taylor. He and Rosine Appenzeller had 6 
> children: Johann, Martin, Christian, Friedrich, Christine and Karoline.
>
> His parents Michael MÜNZER and Christina ZIEGER came to "Suedpreussen" in 
> 1800. They originated in Oberbaldingen near Villingen-Schwenningen in 
> Württemberg (SW Germany) and belonged to the Lutheran parish in Oefingen 
> (old name Effingen); like most of the first settlers in Effingshausen 
> (that is why this name was chosen).
> My ancestor Friedrich Münzer, Martin's brother, was Michael's only son who 
> was still born SW Germany. So in other words, Johann Martin must have been 
> born in Suedpreussen/Poland.
>
> All of Michael Münzer's family came from Oberbaldingen/Oefingen/Tuningen, 
> except for one greatgrandmother, who was from Switzerland.
>
> Christine Zieger was born in Russberg near Tuttlingen. I don't very much 
> more about her yet.
>
>
> My Friedrich Münzer's wife Anna Maria Spohn was born in Brosowo near Kulm 
> in Westpreussen (so she is your Martin's sister-in-law). There was an 
> Appenzeller family in that village as well. I assume that they were your 
> Rosine Appenzeller's relatives, perhaps even her parents. Brosowo was also 
> a "Schwabenkolonie", so they certainly also came from SW Germany (probably 
> about 1780-90).
>
> Hope this helps
> Michael Stockhausen
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Albert Muth" <albertmuth at aol.com>
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Klein, Volhynia, Menzer
>
>
>> The marriage of Christian Menzer (Mincer, in the record) and Marianne
>> Karoline Berger took place 31 Aug 1862 at Pabianice
>> (FHL film #0714496, 1862 #49).  Chiristian was 24 years old, born at
>> Starowa Góra, son of Martin and Rosine (Appenzeller).
>> MKB was also 24, born at L~aznowska Wola, daughter of Jakob and
>> Karoline (Krause).
>>
>> Pabianice is about 7 miles SW of Lodz (2nd largest city in Poland
>> today).
>>
>> I have a wee bit more info, two siblings of Christian who married.
>> Most of this information came after SGGEE001r8 (this is a
>> source in the SGGEE pedigree database, for members only).  The new
>> information will be in SGGEE001r9, early this summer, or whenever
>> I get around to working on it.
>>
>> Al Muth
>> Livonia, MI
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: steve <sgrossmeyer at wi.rr.com>
>> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>> Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:09 am
>> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kleiin Volhynia
>>
>>
>>
>>>From Steve Grossmeyer    (Port Washington Wisconsin USA)
>>
>>
>> I've found new information that I would like to add to my original
>> request...
>> Eduard Klein born in Russia 1879  father Adolf Klein mother Teofile
>> Mateos
>>
>> Eduard / Edward Married to Juliana / Julia Menzer on May 17 1902 in
>> Berrien
>> Michigan (USA)...   This was Julias 2nd marriage
>>
>> Julias Father  Christian Menzer and mother Coroline / Karoline Berger
>> (Burger)
>>
>> Julias First marriage to  ??  Krohn  Kronn   Kron    children Albert
>> Ernestina
>>
>> Any information much appreciated...          sg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello....
>> My name is Steve Grossmeyer from Milwaukee Wisconsin.  I am seeking any
>> information on my great grandfather.  EDWARD KLEIN born 1879 wife
>> JULIANA
>> ??...   Immigrated to the US in 1900..   Any information on this family
>> would be appreciated...
>> Regards     s grossmeyer
>>
>>
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