[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Alexandrowka - Alwine Mül ler b1875
Jerry Frank
FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
Thu Dec 25 06:53:32 PST 2008
Maria,
Greetings and Merry Christmas from not so warm
Calgary, Alberta. Unfortunately we cannot make
your Christmas any merrier with good genealogical news.
The available evangelisch (= Lutheran) records
for 1835-1885 have been fully extracted and are
searchable at http://www.sggee.org/databases.html
. The originals can also be viewed online at
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#p=0
(click Asia, then Russian Duplicate Church Books, then Volyn).
There is no match for either the date you
mentioned nor the parents found by your
researcher. I looked for Mueller, Muller and
Miller without luck. I even looked through all
the dates to see if I could find a close match
for a Dec. 5, 1875 birth under a different name
but came up blank. Also couldn't find an Alwine
born to a Johann or Caroline. You should look at
those original church books in case the
extraction was missed. You may also want to look
at the Kiev records located there. They have not
yet been extracted and there is overlap between Kiev and Volhynia.
There can be several reasons for the bad luck
associated with not finding the record. Most of
these records were originally written down by a
Kantor in the village and then transcribed into
the main church book by the pastor. It is known
from notes written by the pastor that some Kantor
books were not kept very well. This and other
possible reasons for the entry being missed are
some possibilities. Another is that the death
record contains inaccurate info. My
grandfather's death record here in Canada states
his mother was Rosalia Solomka. In fact, his
mother was Christine Steinwand and he was born in
Solomka. So, it is possible that your
grandmother was not born in Volhynia at all but
perhaps somewhere else before the family migrated there.
Can you track down the names of other siblings
that may have been born in Volhynia? This may at
least help us to locate the right family grouping.
Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
At 03:04 AM 25/12/2008, Maria Mikolics wrote:
>Christmas Greetings to you all from warm & sunny Western Australia!
>
>Thanks so much to everyone who replied so quickly to my post.
>
>Unfortunately I have no confirmed information
>regarding my great grandmother's parents. I did
>receive some information from a researcher that
>indicated her parents were Johann Johann &
>Caroline Miller as per census record Horoshki
>volost, Zhitomir Uezd 1897. However, I'm now not
>so certain of this information as Alwine's age
>at census would mean that she was born c1883
>(assuming the information provided re age was
>correct) - which is very different to the year given in her death record.
>
>According to her death record my great
>grandmother's full name was Alwine Eleonore
>Müller and she was born 5 December 1875. At this
>stage I'm thinking I need to see if I can find a
>record for an Alwine Müller born on this date
>and take it from there. Also mentioned on her
>death record is that she was evangelisch.
>
>
>Maria Mikolics
>Western Australia
>
>RESEARCHING:
>HUNGARY (Csatka, Borzavár, Bakonybánk,
>Tápszentmiklós, Kecskemét, Nagykorös,
>Kerekegyháza, Kocsér) - Mikolics, Nyúl-Tóth,
>Karner, Major, Csonka, Nagy, Jakab, Borbe,
>Krucse, Marsa, Gál, Major, Florián, Koczek, Horváth
>GERMANY/PRUSSIA (Bublitz, Drawehn, Grumsdorf,
>Illowo) - Zemke, Stremel, Bork, Miller/Müller
>UKRAINE (Alexandrowka, Cheremoshne) - Miller/Müller, Stremel
>
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