[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Arndt Familie.

[Gary Warner]

Gessy,

As a correction to what Al Muth has noted, there is a free version of 
the St. Petersburg search engine on the SGGEE website at 
http://www.sggee.org/databases

I looked briefly for your data using that search engine, but did not 
find any Rudolf born in 1884- was he a Lutheran?  I also did not find 
any Emilie Stebner, except for 3 that were born in 1880 or earlier, so I 
assume that none are the Emilie you seek.   Again, was she a Lutheran?  
The St. Petersburg records only contain Lutheran records.

Gary Warner
SGGEE

Albert Muth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As you may know, a lot of SGGEE people are at a convention this weekend in Kelowna, British Columbia and then may 
> be travelling for a while.? I hope they read all their email when they return.
>
> It strikes me as interesting that you are more certain about the baptismal date, than the date of birth itself.? Perhaps, you
> are questioning that the birth occurred in the same year?
>
> The Volhynian births, marriages and deaths of German Lutherans are available publicly at
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukrgs/volhynia/? If you are a member of SGGEE, there is a better search
> engine that will bring all the names up in each category at ?http://www.sggee.org/members/StPeteMember
> But you must be a member, it will ask you for a password
>
> I am curious about the nature of the document that provides the date of baptism.? Have you ever had it completely 
> translated by someone with genealogical experience?? If you can describe the document (without forgetting to mention the
> language in which it is written!), I am sure several readers will volunteer to help you get every last word.? I am not 
> criticizing your average German/Polish/Russian speaker on the street, but unless they are familiar with 1880's vocabulary,
> spelling, and handwriting, they are likely to miss things that would be obvious to a genealogist with knowledge of those
> tongues.
>
> If you look in the 1880-1885 time frame, there is no birth for Rudolph Arndt.? But, there is one born in 1870.? See
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukrgs/volhynia/vol187xb.txt? The whole family?might be worth exploring to see
> whether you recognize other connections.? The significance of a birth in 1870 and a baptism in 1884 is that it 
> corresponds to the age at first communion,14 for Lutherans.? The confirmation could not take place without proof
> of the baptism.?
>
> I will poke around a bit in material that I have transcribed, but not yet posted to the members' only pedigree database 
> to see whether I see anything regarding the?marriage of the parents of 1870 Rudolph.
>
> al muth
> livonia, mi (usa)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gess Ellwanger <gess.ellwanger at gmail.com>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Sent: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 4:36 pm
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Arndt Familie.
>
>
>
> Greetings:
>
> I am looking for information regarding my maternal grandfather's family:
>
> RUDOLPH ARNDT - born 17 October????  Kirchspiel Shitomir, Wolhynien and
> baptised 17 October 1884 in Deimani
> wife - EMILIA (STEBNER) ARNDT -  born ???????? -
> daughter - JOHANNA ARNDT - born 1913 - Wolhynia or Volhynia.
> daughters - Elsa and Dina ARNDT
> The whole family left the Wohynien area the first semester of 1914.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Gessy Ellwanger
>
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