[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] EWZ Files & Deportation to Siberia
Karl Krueger
dabookk54 at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 24 09:15:53 PDT 2008
To get more out of how to read the results from ODL look at the frame numbers. Any names that have the same frame number are on the same page meaning they should be in the same family. Then by looking at their birthdates you should be able to predict who was a grandparent / parent / child. This info is taken from a "Stammblatt" and normally gives 3 generations of information.
I am thinking it might be good for me to write an article in an upcoming journal to better understand all the information ODL shows for their EWZ results. When you know what you are looking at you almost don't even need the record since much of it is given in their database. It is only because I know EWZ so well that I can "read between the lines" of these results. It would be good for me to teach others to have this skill too.
Karl
Kyle Sattler <kylesattler at sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi Karl and Nelson,
I have looked into the EWZ files on Odessa 3 just the other day. On
the J044 film that Karl mentioned, I found no Zietz families from
Ekaterinoslav but I did find several Zitz families from Eichwald,
Gottland and Neuhof. These are all in the vicinity of where the Zietz
family lived. I will look into getting copies. I had also searched the
other EWZ and found some more Zietz and Zitz families from around Gottland.
Thanks for the help,
Kyle
Karl Krueger wrote:
> Kyle and Nelson,
> Film #2098666 is a EWZ57 film. You will get little useful information
> from this other than where to look for your potential relatives in
> EWZ58 and even that can be a guessing game.
>
> A better way to go is to check ODL and search for Zietz names in EWZ50
> - select "War Records" under Data category. You will see virtually all
> Zietz are found on EWZ50 film J044 but none are from Ekaterinoslav.
> You can only get EWZ50 records by someone making copies for you at the
> US National Archives.
> Karl
>
> */Nelson Itterman /* wrote:
>
> To Kyle & Karl:
> There is one EWZ film #2098666 which will have the listing of all
> the Zietz
> names. It would help if you have other names that show a
> relationship with
> the Zietz family. If any of the Zietz's registered as immigrants
> any time
> between 1939 and 1945, they would have to fill out forms showing their
> immediate family their parents and probably grandparents. This is the
> application stage, before they are granted any status. It is worth
> a try. If
> you find the names of ancestors, you then apply for follow up
> films that
> would have more details. You could be very lucky.
> Nelson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf
> Of Karl
> Krueger
> Sent: February-12-08 7:33 PM
> To: Kyle Sattler; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] EWZ Files & Deportation to Siberia
>
> Dear Kyle,
> To learn what EWZ is all about read this link.
> http://www.volhynia.com/ewzmain.html
>
> EWZ would only be helpful for you if your relatives were met by
> the German
> troops and then they were naturalized as German citizens.
> Karl
>
> Kyle Sattler wrote: Hello SGGEE members,
>
> I am asking for some help on my Zietz family from Ekaterinoslav,
> Russia
> (southern Ukraine). They were German Russians. My great-great
> grandfather,
> Bernhard Zietz (originally Sietz?) and his family immigrated in
> December
> 1923-January 1924 as I have mentioned in previous postings. His
> father,
> Peter, died in 1916 in Russia.
>
> Bernhard's mother and siblings were still in Ekaterinoslav during
> WWII.
> I was wondering what records might be available for deportations
> to Siberia
> or EWZ files. I am not really familiar with EWZ files but I
> believe that
> they were recorded for German Russians during WWII? Did they
> include the
> German Russians that got deported to Siberia to work in the salt
> mines?
>
> I have been told that one of Bernhard's brothers, Aloysius, was killed
> by revolutionists during the Russian Revolution as he was a
> student at the
> university of Moscow. I understand that they were prime targets for
> Revolutionists. Another brother, George, died at a young age. Bernhard
> helped George's widow immigrate to Canada. From her he found out
> that his
> mother, Regina (Malinovsky) Zietz and a brother, Joseph, were sent to
> Siberia to work in the salt mines there.
> Bernhard's mother, Regina, was 71 at the time of her deportation.
> I would
> think that she would be unable to do much labour in salt mines at
> that age?
>
> If someone could help me out on this subject, that would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
> Greetings from the Saskatchewan winter,
>
> Kyle Sattler
>
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