[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Names of places

Sun Nov 4 20:59:14 PST 2007

Thankyou all.....I got out a few maps I have here at home and looked 
close...now you have confirmed what I suspected.  It is always interesting to 
see the word in print and to hear what it sounds like.

Goryn River (sounds like Urine)
Zlasno (Zlasna)
Kalisch
Kiwerce (Kievritz)
Stepan
Derazno (Drajna)
Osowa (Ossof)
Stydyn (Stugin)

I also sat my Dad down and asked him which way to which village and that 
helped.  Also to hear which ones were on the river.  He used to carry butter to 
be sold to Derazno...walking....it looks like about 18km one way...yikes...not 
many 10-12 year olds would do that nowadays!

Did anyone watch the documentary on History TV tonight about the Eastern 
Front...they talked about Jan.45 and the Flugt from Warthegau.

Thanks everyone,
Rita Lyster

 On Behalf Of Howard
> Krushel
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:10 PM
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Names of places
> 
> Rita:
> In checking the Rovno map at:
> http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/44-51.jpg
> you will find Stepan on the Horyn river; if you follow the river down to
> where it makes a big loop you will see Derazno/Deraschno which I would think
> would be the larger center of "Drajna" which you looking for; Osowa is
> located a bit west of Stepan; it would be pronounced as Osoff with the last
> syllable being dropped, as was often case when a German pronounced a Slavic
> village name; although there is an Osow straight north of Stepan but it is a
> considerable distance away and probably not the one you are looking for;
> just south of Mydzk(Mick) is the village of Stydynie which I would think
> would be where they obtained their mail; dropping the "ie" and changing the
> spelling more to an english spelling, it would look like Stidin or perhaps
> Stydin.
> In regard to Kievritz, I was wondering if this might be reference to the
> town of Kremenez way south west of Rovno near the southern border of
> Volhynia; could she have taken a train which ran across the border at Brody
> in Austria and traveled to Lodz or a different camp, using that route?
> Howard Krushel 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of
> rlyster at telusplanet.net
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:12 AM
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Names of places
> 
> 
> Once more...for my book...I want to have the correct spellings of places:
> 
> In the vicinity of Mydzk (Krs.Kostopol) my Dad talks of villages with
> markets.  
> I found Stepan that he says was about 10 km away.  Another village sounds
> like 
> Osov or Vasolf??  A bigger city that was further than Stepan was Drajna??
> Here 
> you could buy more things and there was a taylor that sewed suits.
> 
> They got the mail at Stugeon ??
> 
> On the way to Lodz during the time of resettlement, they were on a train and
> 
> stopped (siding of the train tracks) at Zlazna or Slozna??
> 
> 
> Then the camps after Lodz were Kalisch?? and then Waldhorst?? which was 
> supposidly a former Jewish resort now turned refugee camp?
> 
> In my mother's story, again during the resettlement:
> 
> families left by train....I did not go to Rozyszcze, I went to Kievritz??
> 
> The book is progressing very well....I am hoping to get to a publisher
> shortly 
> after Christmas!!
> 
> Rita Lyster
> 
> Using Shetlseeker at 
> 
> http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp
> 
> you can find each of these towns in the Ukraine, and their relationship to
> each other.
> 
> Mydzk
> 
> Mitsk, Mydzk Vel'ki, Mydzk, Bol'shoy Midsk 51°05' 26°09' E M U G Ukraine
> 195.9 miles WNW of Kyyiv 50°26' 30°31'  
> 
> Stepan
> 
> Stepan' 51°08' 26°18' E M U G Ukraine  190.3 miles WNW of Kyyiv 50°26'
> 30°31'  
> 
> Osov  There are a couple of possible, but this one is probably the right
> one.  Need to get the town with the closest coordinates to Mydzk, I guess.
> Take a look, and make your own decision.
> 
> Osova 51°05' 25°58' E M U G Ukraine  203.7 miles WNW of Kyyiv 50°26' 30°31'
> 
> 
> Drajna  Could not locate.
> 
> Stydyn
> 
> Stydyn', Stydyn Vel'ki, Bol'shoy Stydin 51°03' 26°10' E M U G Ukraine  194.7
> miles WNW of Kyyiv 50°26' 30°31'  
> 
> Zlazna
> 
> Zlazne, Zlazno 50°56' 26°13' E M U G Ukraine  191.2 miles WNW of Kyyiv
> 50°26' 30°31'   
> 
> Kalisch Possible town - But it is ENE of Kyyiv.
> 
> Kalishche, Kalishi, Kalisheva 51°22' 34°06' E M U G Ukraine  168.7 miles ENE
> of Kyyiv 50°26' 30°31'  
> 
> Waldhorst - Could not locate in the Ukraine with ShtetlSeeker.
> 
> Kievritz
> 
> Kivertse, Kiwerce, Kivertsy, Kivertsi 50°50' 25°28' E M U G Ukraine  222.8
> miles W of Kyyiv 50°26' 30°31'   
> 
> Rozyszcze
> 
> Rozhishche, Rozyszcze, Rozhyshche 50°55' 25°16' E M U G Ukraine  232.1 miles
> W of Kyyiv 50°26' 30°31'  
> 
> 
> Good luck with your book.
> 
> Joe in Texas
> 
> 
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