[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Doberstein

[Rose Ingram]

Hi Tana,

On what film number did you find the 1833 death record?   I may have the 
film at my FHC, and could get a copy for you.

I too suspect this may be the same family.  It may well be that whoever 
recorded the 1830 birth of Gottfried, wrote 'Gottfried' (probably written 
Boguslaw) for the father's name instead of 'Peter' (Piotr). Keep in mind 
this record is the Catholic church.  I have seen this mix up often - mostly 
on birth records of females, and the mother's first name is the same as the 
daughter's first name.

Many times I have seen Bogumil written for both both Gottlieb and Gottfried, 
also have seen Boguslaw written for Gottlieb and Gottfried.  This leaves us 
guessing about the recorder's intention.

Finding a marriage record for Gottfried citing his parents names would 
confirm our suspicions.  Orle records certainly sounds like a place to 
start.  Another thought, if Boguslaw/Bogumil (Gottfried/Gottlieb) died 
shortly after his mother's death in 1853, he may be found in the Orle 
records.

Rose Ingram
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From: "Mike and Tana Laudolff" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:04 AM

>I recently found my gr (3x) grandfather's death record. It is recorded in 
>the year 1833. The name recorded is Piotr Doberstein. He is suvived by his 
>wife, Elizabeth . Elizabeth's brother, Andreas Friske is listed as one of 
>the witnesses. Piotr is listed as a Kollonia of Pogorzele. I was not able 
>to make a copy as the LDS center is fairly new and does not yet have a 
>copier for micofilm.
>
> What is interesting is it also notes that he is surivived by  "Michata i 
> Bogumila". I  am aware of  son Michael as this is the line I arrive from. 
> The second name... is what is interesting, as Elizabeth's death record in 
> 1853 at Wyrobki, Radziejow, Bydoszcz states that she is surivied by 4 sons 
> and 1 daughter. I now have all children accounted for. but a new search 
> begins!
>
> My questions is this- I have found on the sggee site where a Gottried and 
> Elizabeth Friske Doberstein had a son, Gottried in 1830 in Prewow Maly. I 
> am suspecting that this is the same family, as I have long suspected that 
> these two families were connected. Can anyone shed some light onto the 
> variation the names Piotr, Peter, Gottfried, Godfrey etc take.  I think 
> that before I can look any farther I am going to need to understand this 
> better. Records are tricky enough without adding more !
>
> I plan on looking in the Orle church records for traces of Bogumila ( or 
> name variations) and see what comes up. My Michael married a Rosine 
> Richter in that area and it is were Elizabeth  Friske Doberstein Kitzman 
> traveled to by 1835, where she gave birth to a son Johann August Kitzman. 
> ( I did find Elizabeth's and Johann Kitzman's marriage record in 1834).
>
> Thank you any suggestions and input.
>
> Tana Laudolff
> In Search of .... Doberstein, Friske, Kitzman, Richter, Guenther
> Sompolno, Pogerzele, Gakzyczki, Teodorowo - Poland
> Nataliendorf, Josephow- Volhnyia
>
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