[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] help searching ship manifests

[Barbara Cooper]

Hi Chris,

I also have noticed some of the similarities in our posts right down to certain locations in Volhynia so perhaps I will give those ports of arrival and departure priority and maybe I'll get lucky.

Barbara
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Menke 
  To: Barbara Cooper ; Dave Obee 
  Cc: SGGEE mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] help searching ship manifests


  Barbara and List,

  Just a little insight Barbara. I have seen some of your previous postings and know our ancestors had a lot in common - left Volhynia, went to Neche via Gretna, etc... My Menke ancestors came in three trips, first in 1900, then more in 1907, the last in 1908. The ALL left from the port at Libau, and they all came via Liverpool. The only variation was where they landed here - 2 of the 3 trips landed at Halifax. The other through Ellis Island. 
  Chris Menke

  Barbara Cooper <bdaelick at hotmail.com> wrote:
    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for the reply. I had resigned myself to just going through all the 
    lists and have looked at many already but just hoped for some tips to narrow 
    it down. The family I am looking for first went to the Neche area of North 
    Dakota so they are not in the 1901 census though I did check the Gretna area 
    just to be sure. I got the year of arrival from my Great Grandfathers 
    homestead file. His brother-in-law made one of the sworn statements in 
    support of his claim. In it he said he'd known him 1891-1901 in Russia, 
    1901-1904 in North Dakota and from 1904 on at his homestead. That was in 
    1910 so hopefully he had the years right. I have checked all the Odessa 
    lists without finding them and have searched Ellis Island as well in case 
    they came through there. I understand it was cheaper to travel to Canada so 
    am concentrating on those lists. To narrow the search on Archivianet I 
    wondered if choosing a port of departure might help. Was one of them more 
    popular with German/Russian immigrants than others? I know I may end up 
    looking at all of them sooner or later but it sometimes helps to break 
    things down in to more manageable groupings so as not to feel overwhelmed. 
    I have started with the Quebec arrivals from Liverpool and am about halfway 
    through them then I'll continue from there if I have no luck. Thank you 
    again and as always I am thrilled with the help I recieve from this group.

    Barbara

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Dave Obee" 
    To: "Barbara Cooper" 
    Cc: "SGGEE mail list" 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:33 PM
    Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] help searching ship manifests


    > Jerry Frank has suggested the indexes that are already available. If the 
    > family does not appear there, then at this point you will need to do the 
    > page-by-page work. If it's any consolation, most of us have had to do 
    > that.
    >
    > If you can wait a bit, more comprehensive indexes are in the works and 
    > might be online in a year or so. That might speed things somewhat. If they 
    > came through England, be sure to watch ancestorsonboard.com, which covers 
    > outbound passengers from 1890 through 1899 but will soon be expanded to 
    > include later years.
    >
    > If you can't wait, does the family appear in the 1901 census? If not, you 
    > can assume that they came after the census was taken. Also note that the 
    > 1900-1914 index on the Odessa site is for Halifax. If they do not appear 
    > in that index, then look at the records from Quebec, which was a busier 
    > port, in the summer at least. The idea is to aim for the records that are 
    > most likely to help you.
    >
    > Beyond that, of course, it's amazing how often people gave the wrong year 
    > when asked when they arrived. Be warned.
    >
    > Dave Obee
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Barbara Cooper 
    > Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:49 am
    > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] help searching ship manifests
    >
    >> Hello all!
    >>
    >> As I sit here scrolling through ships manifests on the Canada
    >> archives site I wonder if someone might be able to offer me some
    >> advice for narrowing down my search? I have deduced that the
    >> family I am looking for arrived in 1901 but that still leaves lots
    >> and lots of ships to look through if don't know which port they
    >> arrived at. I also wonder just how badly the manifests can be
    >> wrong? I have come across family groups that include some of the
    >> right names and close ages but then something in there will be way
    >> off. Like a married woman listed with what would be her maiden
    >> name under the correct parents names but without her husband or her
    >> children (I hope that makes sense). Any guidance would be
    >> appreciated or going through all these lists will take forever.
    >>
    >> Barbara Cooper
    >>
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