[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] RES: Help with a marriage register

[Jerry Frank]

Piotrkow was never part of Germany.  It was always Russia or Poland.

Unfortunately I know of no other research 
opportunities other than the Alegata (marriage 
announcements) for this parish that exist in the 
Warsaw Archives - see 
http://www.archiwa.gov.pl/?CIDA=378 and click on 
"Database" in upper right to get to the search 
page.  While it is possible that Ferdinand was 
born in a German State, it is more likely that he 
was also born somewhere in Russian Poland.  Even 
if he was born in a German State, it would be 
impossible to find him without knowing the 
location.  Such information would only be found 
in the Piotrkow Parish records.  IFyou could find 
the marriage announcement for Ferdinand in the 
Alegata, it would tell you where he was born.


Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca


At 04:39 AM 05/01/2007, Mauricio Norenberg wrote:
>Jerry,
>
>Thanks for the help.
>Very bad news for the records... it means that i've stopped in the time?
>As I can see, there are no records near 1860.
>I don't know what I can do now.
>
>Maybe I can research where Ferdinand born. Maybe were born in a German State?
>By the way, Piotrkow was Russian or German in 
>that age? Sorry my desinformation.
>
>Mauricio
>
>
>2007/1/5, Jerry Frank 
><<mailto:FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>:
>Unfortunately, there are many Janow in Poland,
>several dozen in fact.  The one you are looking
>for would be in the Piotrkow province in the
>vicinity of Piotrkow Trybunalskie.
>
>There are two possibilities with the most likely
>being located about 16 km NE of that city at about N51/28 E19/54.
>
>The other is about 30 km SE of the city at about N51/17 E20/04.
>
>The bad news in any case is that very few records
>for this parish exist.  You can find the list of
>years at 
><http://www.sggee.org/church_parishes/LutheransInRusPoland>http://www.sggee.org/church_parishes/LutheransInRusPoland
>
>
>
>Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
><mailto:FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>
>
>
>At 07:43 PM 04/01/2007, Mauricio Nörenberg wrote:
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
> >Now, i'm looking for where to research for a possible birth register of
> >Johann.
> >
> >There are a Janow location near Warsaw, is it the same?
> >
> >   _____
> >
> >De: Karl Krueger [mailto:dabookk54 at yahoo.com]
> >Enviada em: quinta-feira, 4 de janeiro de 2007 16:59
> >Para: Mauricio Norenberg; 
> <mailto:ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >Assunto: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help with a marriage register
> >
> >
> >
> >To me it looks like Johann was born in Janow, Gmina Piotrkow (Poland) and he
> >was 27 years old at this time in 1887. His parents were Ferdinand
> >Noehrenberg and Caroline Markus. His bride was 
> Julianne Braun (25 years old)
> >daughter of Wilhelm Braun and Dorothea Gross?? Seems like she was born in a
> >town like ?Jasieniec?, near Wladimir (Volhynia) but baptised in some other
> >town I can't read.
> >
> >Mauricio Norenberg < 
> <mailto:mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com>mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >I was researching for my ggfather marriage, and with help of friends here,
> >i've found.
> >Diethard and Robert sent me a long time ago, some marriages of brothers of
> >my ggfather Johann Norenberg.
> >So, i'm trying to find the birthplace and the birth register of Johann.
> >
> >I don't know if it have new information in the marriage, can anyone try to
> >read it for me?
>
>