[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] LODZ
Mike McHenry
maurmike1 at verizon.net
Thu Nov 9 06:58:57 PST 2006
John and Michael
Thanks for the input. I had searched the SGGEE Lodz database also Das
Telefonbuch in the past. I have about 10 USA records where my grandmother
spells her name Manzei. In the pedigree database you get 16 results
searching for Manzei dating from about 1820. Several are from Lipno. I have
studied the Lipno confirmation records 1867-1906. They are unique for the
period in that you don't have to interpret Russian or Polish spellings. Also
they are mostly alphabetical by year. There are many Manzei, Manthei,
Mantei, etc in these records side by side in the tables. Each family
(parents are listed) always spells their name the same way. Two Manzei's
families I followed cover a span of more then 20 years.
Although these names come from a common root (Guenther says it's Maciej)
they probably separated before my current period of interest 1800-present.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
[mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Stockhausen
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:58 AM
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org; Mike McHenry
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] LODZ
Importance: High
Mantei/Mantay/Mantey/Manthei etc was in fact a very common name in the
entire region, also in the surrounding parishes.
The German telephone directory, however, also lists about 100 Mancei/Manzei,
so the names does obviously exist.
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: gpvjem <gpvjem at sasktel.net>
> Gesendet: 09.11.06 04:38:53
> An: "'S G G E E'" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] LODZ
> Mike:
> As a result of your original inquiry I immediately checked the Lodz
Trinity parish records for the Manzei name and found none. Your quest for
Rudolf Manzei is about 50 year later than the latest records I have in my
possession.
> I have a strong suspicion that Manzei = Manthei, as Reiner Kerp has
suggested, and there are many entries of that name to be found in the Lodz
Trinity parish, but of course of an earlier period.
> The fully translated (to English) records I have start with 1828 and
end in 1853. The series of LDS film numbers that apply are as follows;
> 1828 - 1847 are 809109 to 809114;
> 1848 - 1853 are 809415 to 809417.
> Lodz Trinity parish encompassed not only Lodz, but an outlying area S
and SSE of Lodz probably extending about 2 or 3 Kms from the city with
several villages within this area.
> So in summary, if you can get back about 50 years to the 1850s, and if
it is possible to reconcile Manzei with Manthei, there may some information
in the Lodz records to aid your search.
>
> John Marsch
>
> --------------------------------------
>
>
> Mike,
>
> I cannot answer your question about which film, as John is working
> from paper transcripts of the records that were not filmed. If he
> is around, he may be able to help you more with the film numbers, if he
knows.
>
> Gary
>
> At 05:08 PM 11/08/06, Mike McHenry wrote:
> >Thanks this why I was looking for help. A place name search at FHC
gives
> >multiple results for Lodz. Are they all the in the same area? Which
films
> >are trinity?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> >[mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of
Gary
> >Warner
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:12 PM
> >To: Mike McHenry; 'S G G E E'
> >Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] LODZ
> >Importance: High
> >
> >Mike,
> >
> >I have looked at the Lodz Trinity database that John Marsch is
> >working on. The database was about 28,000 names this summer, but I
> >do not see any Manzei in that data. This is only one of several
> >parishes in the Lodz area, however.
> >
> >Gary Warner
> >SGGEE
> >
> >At 10:16 AM 11/07/06, Mike McHenry wrote:
> > >I came across a new piece of evidence on the origins of my
grandmother
> > >Auguste Manzei. In reviewing EI manifest for a Rudolf Mancei (polish
> > >spelling) Oct. 1903 SS Rhein I noticed something I overlooked. He is
headed
> > >for Bristol, CT where my grandparents lived at the time. When I
looked at
> > >this manifest previous times I only looked at the box for whom you
are
> >going
> > >to that seemed to be associated with him. This indicated an Uncle
K???.
> > >However in the bottom of the box above I now notice B-I-L (brother in
law)
> > >Wilhelm Muller. This was my grandfather's name. I now conclude this
was my
> > >grandmother's brother. He has a line through his name meaning he was
> > >deported. Is anyone researching LODZ area and could give me some
pointers?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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