[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 32, Issue 16

Mon Jan 16 05:32:31 PST 2006

Hello all,

My ancestors came from the area of Bromberg Prussia.  They left there in 
1816 and lived in Arcis Russia until 1877 when the came to the United 
States.  They were Evengelical Luthern.  In one area the town of Kriskowo in 
Prussia was mentioned which I have not been able to locate.  Also, the Ilow 
Confirmation records include a Johann Starke which was g, g, granfathers 
name.  Johann Stark born 1788 and left for Arcis Russia in 1816 with brother 
Jakob.   Johann's son Frederick Stark came to the states.

Does anyone know where I might look in church records for the area of 
Bromberg Prussia starting in 1788.

I thank in advance.

Mary Jo Stark Kelley
Jackson, Michigan
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>   1. Bartz and Juhnke from Germany (catramp at esu1.org)
>   2. Re: Przasnysz-Parish (Gary Warner)
>   3. VOLHYNIA B-M-D after 1885 (Lynn White)
>   4. Re: VOLHYNIA B-M-D after 1885 (Jerry Frank)
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> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:10:43 -0600
> From: catramp at esu1.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Bartz and Juhnke from Germany
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> As you can tell that this couple came from Germany to Wisc. and on to 
> Nebraska in the USA.  I don't know how to find records for them to find 
> their families in Germany, now Poland.  I think that Hanna's parents were 
> Michael Juhnke and Maria R. Coske.
>
> We also believe that Carl paid passage to the US for two nephews;  a Carl 
> Jhunke and a Herman Zart.
>
> I have been reading entries in the mailing list which are very interesting 
> to me and if you can help me I would be thrilled. I don't know which port 
> they came through, I don't know anything about where they came from so my 
> information is pretty bare.
>
>
> Carl and Hanna Juhnke Bartz
>       Carl W. Bartz was born January 20, 1842 in Zitmin Schlawe Pommern 
> Germany, and died June 10, 1918 in Crofton, Knox, NE resulting from a 
> fall. He came to Wisconsin in America in 1869 where he worked as a 
> gardner, we think  meeting Hanna while there.   He married Hanna Ernestine 
> Fredricka Juhnke 1871.  She was born June 28, 1847 in Friedensdorf, 
> Schlawe Pommern Germany, and died October 26, 1933 in Cedar Falls, Iowa 
> where she is buried in the Western Home Cemetery there.
> They came to Knox County, Nebraska in 1870 where they worked as ranch 
> hands on the Charles Mischke Ranch.  Later they homesteaded at Beaver 
> Creek, in Cedar County, NE.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:41:08 -0800
> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz-Parish
> To: "Dr. Frank Stewner" <dr.stewner at t-online.de>,
> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> Frank,
>
> Since the 1835 records are the earliest known records for Przasnysz,
> then there are at least two possibilities:
>
> 1.   Find the families in the Catholic records for the same area.  If
> you pursue this route, there is a listing of Catholic parishes, and
> the towns in each parish in a series of spiral bound books by
> Johathan D. Shea and Wiliam F. Hoffman, called "Polish Localities in
> the Russian Partition and Their Parish Affiliations.     I have
> Volume I: Bialystok, Drochiczyn, Lomza, Plock Dioceses, which
> includes the Lutheran parish of Przasnysz.   The book is printed by
> Language and Lineage Press of New Milford, CT, USA, and has an ISBN
> 0-9631579-1-4.
>
> 2.   Find them Lutheran parishes that were formed earlier than
> Przasnysz.    Unless the center of that parish is somewhat close to
> the location where your family was located, however, it is more
> probable that they will be found in the Catholic records.
>
> Since Przasnysz is a parish of great interest to me, I will be
> interested to see what you find.   It seems that there are some good
> clues to where the people in Przasnysz came from in the later records
> (actual birth places noted in the Przasnysz marriage and death
> records that are outside of Przasnysz parish), so you may want to
> explore the records that are after 1835 before you jump to the
> Catholic or more distant Lutheran parishes.    The places I have
> found in marriage and death records indicate that my people came
> I  from the southwest of that parish, but your family may be different.
>
> Gary Warner
>
> At 08:04 AM 01/14/06, Dr. Frank Stewner wrote:
>>I found many Stefner-family members in the Churchbook of Przasnysz.
>>Where do I have to search before 1835 to find more?
>>
>>Frank Stewner
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:51:05 +0000
> From: "Lynn White" <whitehaus99 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] VOLHYNIA B-M-D after 1885
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> Could someone clarify for me the availability status of 
> Birth-Marriage-Death
> records for the later 1880's and 1890's for Volhynia? Can I rent the
> microfilms and search, or are they simply not available yet?
>
> If they are available (just not transcribed yet)- I am trying to find a
> marriage in 1895-96, names known, location could be Terespol or a village
> outside Rivne (possibly Marjanowka). Does this involve many multiple
> films-or just annual marriage films for the parish? I wouldn't know what 
> to
> ask for at the FHS unless someone can help me out.
>
> Thank you....Lynn White
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:35:27 -0700
> From: Jerry Frank <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] VOLHYNIA B-M-D after 1885
> To: Lynn White <whitehaus99 at hotmail.com>,
> ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> At 09:51 AM 15/01/2006, Lynn White wrote:
>>Could someone clarify for me the availability status of 
>>Birth-Marriage-Death
>>records for the later 1880's and 1890's for Volhynia? Can I rent the
>>microfilms and search, or are they simply not available yet?
>>
>>If they are available (just not transcribed yet)- I am trying to find a
>>marriage in 1895-96, names known, location could be Terespol or a village
>>outside Rivne (possibly Marjanowka). Does this involve many multiple
>>films-or just annual marriage films for the parish? I wouldn't know what 
>>to
>>ask for at the FHS unless someone can help me out.
>>
>>Thank you....Lynn White
>
>
> The entire list of Lutheran microfilms for Volhynia is posted at
> http://www.sggee.org/church_parishes/LutheransInVolhyniaKievPodolia
> .  As far as I know, there are no microfilms available covering your
> time frame and region.
>
> Others on the list may offer suggestions regarding research in local 
> archives.
>
>
>
>
> Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
> FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>
>
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