[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 32, Issue 13
Mary J Kelley
mjkelley at tds.net
Thu Jan 12 12:50:28 PST 2006
Nancy,
Where in W. Prussia were your family from? My ancestors (Stark) lived in W.
Prussia and then went to Arcis near the Black Sea in Russia and then to the
Dakotas and then to Michigan.
Mary Jo Stark Kelley
Where in
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> 1. Re: shepherds and wool (Nancy Gertner)
> 2. Ciechocinski (waldemar kruger)
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> From: Nancy Gertner <nancygertner at mac.com>
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> I think wool is important in all areas with a cold climate. Or at
> least it was before the invention of synthetic materials that are
> commonly used for cold weather clothing in the 21st Century.
>
> My ancestors that moved from West Prussia (Poland) to South Russia
> and lived near the Black Sea had sheep, according to old 1800s census
> records, and this was a very important part of their economy in the
> early years, before they had good access to ports that exported
> wheat. Homestead papers of USA also show that homesteaders in
> Minnesota had sheep in numbers that frequently outnumbered cattle,
> horses and other livestock. My grandmother had sheep, probably from
> 1910-1950s, and we had sheep on our farm from the 1950s - 1980 or so,
> herded by my father and sisters. Several farmers near my farm raise
> sheep in large flocks now, and their importance is probably more for
> the meat than the wool. Many new immigrants to the USA are
> accustomed to having lamb as a regular staple of their diet.
>
> When I traveled to the Netherlands and Poland last year to see where
> my Mennonite and Lutheran ancestors lived before immigrating to South
> Russia, I saw sheep in both countries. There was a nice sized flock
> at the museum in Poland that's located at a former Mennonite Farm,
> and I found it interesting that the sheep were mostly black. I don't
> know if that's historically accurate or not.
>
> So my resume includes shepherd as one of my early careers, and it
> appears that I'm descended from a long line of shepherds. I can't
> tell you how many generations, but I'd say it spans over two centuries.
>
> Nancy
> Minnesota Shepherd
>
> On Jan 12, 2006, at 7:56 AM, Jerry Frank wrote:
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>> Interesting. It must be an obsolete term. Neither of my two Pol/Eng
>> dictionaries show it, only offering owczarek = sheep dog.
>>
>> I've always thought of the cloth making industry in Poland as
>> primarily linen from flax but it appears there was also wool from
>> sheep.
>>
>> Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
>> FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
>>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:38:36 -0800
> From: "waldemar kruger" <waldemar.kruger at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ciechocinski
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> Dear Gerhard.
> Here are some information of birthrecords of my parents , gran-parents and
> great-gran parents. Also included are the places of birth.I hope it will
> help to discover the history of the name ciechocinski.
> My father; Emil Ciechocinski born 25.11.1905 in Lipski--Stanislawow
> Poland.
> My motherl Leokadia Ciechocinski { krueger ] born 2.1.1920 in
> Dowine - Dobrodinske --Nowini Dobrod Poland. Married in
> Lutsk and
> living in Kadyszcze Volhynia.
> Gran
> father; Gottfried Ciechocinski born 18/30 July 1873 in Kaniok--
> Poland. EWZ RECORDS.
> Gran
> mother Ernestine Ciechocinski [ Fechner ] born 2.3.1875 in
> Kelze-- Poland. EWZ RECORDS.
> Both birth certificates I received from the archives of
> Kelze / poland.written by Pastor Eduard Lembke --
> [ Kiletsky ] in kyrillig .It states that they both were
> born in the Hamlet of Ewgeniovy. Village Stutzno -====
> OPOTCHYNSKY District. Further it states that Gottfrieds
> Father August Ciyucinsky age 25 was present at birth.
> II dont know if it was a misspelling fom ukrainien Kyrillig.
> August had a wife called Rosalia Marcinovska in kyrillig
> and also in other files as Rosine Martin.For instant the Odessa
> Files are given a name of August which must be the brother
> of Gottfried he is born 1883. Lipski and Ewgeniovy could be the
> same place.
>
> HERE are some dates from my mothers parents; KRUEGER
> OTTO kRUEGER born 17.10.1892 in Gluscha Kreis Kowel.
> hIS WIFE ;Ottilie Krueger [ Stenzel ] geb.28.1.1893 in
> Juljanowka Kreis Bubno / Pupno Poland. Her parents ;
> Johann geb.19.3. 1848 in Kalisch.Mathilde geb. Gatzke born
> 6.7.1854 in Kalisch.
> Ottos Parents ; Johann and Karoline geb. Minicki.
> This are the Dates and NAMES of my Ancestors .
> Hope it can be of some use .I can go no further back ..
>
> Many Greetings Waldemar.
>
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