[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Place name Emilnowitsch , Geimtal?

Jerry Frank FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
Sat Oct 16 06:43:56 PDT 2004


At 02:57 PM 15/10/2004, Sandra Hartfiel wrote:


>As I visit my family HARTFIEL in Argentina this november, I want to find out
>where their dad (Ferdinand HARTFIEL) was born. On his birth certificate from
>11/6/1912 was a stamp of a church  "Emilnovitsch, Geimstalsk".
>
>I suppose it means Heimtal Parish, but this region is quiet far away from
>the place Ferdinands father Adolf was born (Tumin, near Wladimir Volynsk).
>His father Adolf must be emigrated to Brasil in the early years after
>Ferdinands birth. He came back and got his wife and Ferdinand to Brasil in
>1918.

It is possible for the family to move from one side of Volhynia to 
another.  Some families stayed in one village for several 
generations.  Others moved frequently.  Geimstalsk is certainly 
Heimtal.  There is no H equivalent in Russian Cyrillic so the character is 
often transliterated as a G.  Emilnovitsch would be Emilcin.  I would think 
that the birth certificate would also show the village name of birth.



>Apart from that I still search for a place name which comes close to "Pybiza
>by Kalisch". I have no more ideas, this place doesn't exist... but what was
>the real place name? There are so many places like Pilich, Pichlice,
>Palicyca, Przybylow... it's almost hopeless.. Do you think I should try to
>start with any lutheran records of Kalisch to go through them one after
>another?

Several people have offered viable options for this place name.  However, 
even if you found an equivalent, you would not know any data.  For a few 
Euros, you can order in a microfilm of the records from Kalish Parish to 
see if the surname exists there.  If it doesn't, you know that the name is 
meaningless.  If it does, detailed research will lead you to the correct 
place name.  Note that in Kalish province there are several other parishes 
so you may have to search Stawiszyn and Prazuchy, perhaps also Grodziec or 
Turek.  Of course there is no guarantee that you will find them but there 
is hope.





Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca  



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