[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: [G-P-V] Tchechei; place-names

Jan Textor textor at oncable.dk
Tue Nov 23 00:19:25 PST 2004


Well, at least one name rings a bell.  Budweis, a city of abt. 100,000
inhabitants, is the capital of southern Bohemia in the Czech Republic.  It
is also the home of the world-famous beer. :-)

Jan Textor



Al Muth wrote:

>
> John,
>
> I agree with Guenther that using the Sudetenland as a reference point is
> probably not a good thing.
>
> But it does not answer your question about the point of origin of
> many German
> colonists in the parishes of Wladyslawow, Turek, Aleksandrow, Zgierz,
> Konstantynow, Pabianice, just to name some that I have looked at where the
> region of
> origin is X village w Czechach.  I believe I have also seen the nominative
> case spelling Czechia.  Note that I am referring to information given in
> marriage
> records of the 1840's and 1850's.
>
> Now, I just happen to have a project on the back burner.  I am
> neither a map
> guru, nor an expert in political administrative changes.  BUT, I
> *do* have a
> list of villages of origin that are associated with Czechia, one that I
> created
> as I noticed the high numbers of individuals from this area.  I
> would like to
> know where the villages are so that I can work on verifying them in the
> appropriate genealogical gazetteers.  They are:
>
> Bennsdorf
> Bertzdorf (Friedland)
> Birkstein
> Braunau
> Budweis
> Friedland
> Fulnak (Moravia)
> Gablenz
> Gross-bokken
> Grosswehl
> G|nterdorff
> Heinersdorf (Friedland)
> Hoefke
> Karolinsthal
> Kvniggratz
> Kvnigshof
> Kratzau
> Kreubitzerneudorf
> Lervin
> Markersdorf
> Morgenstern
> Neustadt
> Noschwitz (Weinstatek)
> Pladlebitz
> Quelisch
> Reichenau
> Reichenberg
> Rumburg
> Schwabs
> Warnodorf
> Wartenburg
> Weiksdorf
> Wetzwalde
> Wolfsberg
> Wuenschendorf (Friedland)
> Zwickau
>
> Guenther, any help would be appreciated!
>
> Al Muth
>
> In a message dated 11/22/04 11:26:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> GHBoehm at ish.de
> writes:
>
>
> > gpvjem schrieb:
> >
> > >       Can anyone on the Listserve confirm for me that  name
> "Tchechei",
> > often referred to as the place of origin of many immigrants in
> Poland during
> > the mid 1800s is now known as the Sudetenland are did it cover a larger
> > geographic area?
> > >
> >
> > John,
> > in mid 1800 there was no such state or country and the appropriate
> > region of origin would have been "Boehmen" (in Latin: Bohemia). The
> > "Sudetenland", a name invented after WWI, just ment the peripheral parts
> > of Bohemia inhabited by a majority of Germans. Bohemia is part of the
> > actual Czech Republic which also includes Moravia and the former
> > "Austrian Silesia". Prior to 1918, Bohemia was a kingdom, Moravia a
> > margraviate (later on an Austrian crown land), Austrian Silesia an
> > Austrian crown land either. The name "Tschechei" was also invented after
> > 1918.
> >
> > Guenther
> > of Hilden, Germany
> > (born in Reichenberg, Bohemia)
>
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