[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 18, Issue 9

[rbbtfarm]

That's a big OOPS on the death date below for Caroline Wilhelmine BARZ. See 
note added there..... Sure anyone reading it will have caught it, but I did 
it late last night and missed it.   Tricia M.


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>   1. Dorothy N. - Re: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 18, Issue 7
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> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Dorothy N. - Re: Ger-Poland-Volhynia
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> Hi Dorothy,
>
> Don't know if this will help. I am including my family and their
> relationship to the NEUMANN.
>
> Our branch of this family is generally known as BARZ, but sometimes they 
> and
> other relatives are listed as BARTZ. Many potentially realtives were in 
> the
> MN, WI, IA, IL area.
>
> My great-grandfather, Ernst Friederich BARZ,  had an older half-sister,
> Hanna Charlotte Friederica BARZ. She was born 1846 in Gross Dallenthin
> Poland/Prussia and died 1898 in Joliet, Will Co. IL. She was married to
> Albert NEUMANN when they emigrated to IL with her extended family. 
> Albert's
> birth date and location is unknown. We think the family, including  Hanna
> and Albert, came as a group about 1881. We think Hanna and Albert had
> several children, but the only name we have is Carl (Charles) NEUMANN.
>
> Charlotte's birth mother was Sophie Elisabeth Laurette Raddatz, born 1825
> and died abt. 1851 in Gross Dallenthin Poland/Prussia.  Charlotte had a 
> full
> sister named Caroline Wihelmine BARZ, born 1850 and died 1972 (correction 
> 1872) in
> Henriettenthal, Prussia/Poland.
>
> The father of all the Barz children was Ernst Theodor Erdmann BARZ. He was
> born about 1825. He may have died prior to the emigration or on the way,
> location unknown. His second wife, mother of 6 sons including my ancestor
> and three daughters, was Caroline Justine BECKER. She born about 1832 in
> Poland/Prussia and died about 1900 in Joliet, Will Co. IL.
>
> We have the baptism and confirmation papers for my ancestor. He was 
> baptised
> 1862 at the Royal Prussian-Pomeranian Church, Persazig Parish,
> Poland/Prussia. It was registered by a Lutheran pastor, so I assume it was 
> a
> Lutheran Church. He was confirmed 1876 in Schochwerder. I assume this is
> also a Lutheran church.
> Location of the town was presumed to be in Poland/Prussia, but recent info
> suggests it may have been a city near a seaport in northern Germany. The
> family may have been enroute to the US when this happened.
>
> I will be interested to learn if we connect. Your info might be helpful to
> my BARZ "cousin" who is doing the primary research on this branch of our
> family.
>
> Best Regards,  Tricia M.
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 20:41:53 -0600
>> From: "Royal Natzke" <rdnatzke at execpc.com>
>> Hello,
>> I am hoping someone can help me find my grandfather's birth place. His
>> name
>> was John Martin Neumann and his US Immigration papers state he was born 
>> in
>> KURNENZ, Russia in 1860. On the Declaration of Intention the town is
>> spelled
>> KURMENZ.. I have not been able to find it on maps. At the University of 
>> WI
>> map
>> room, they suggested trying a soundex version and came up with the town 
>> of
>> Kormanice in Poland. Could it be possible that this was Poland and not
>> Russia
>> at the time? His marriage in 1882 to Pauline Kunkel is recorded in the
>> Rosyscze Lutheran Church records in Volhynia. Their children were born in
>> Mariendorf, Vladimir, Volhynia. He immigrated to the US via Canada in
>> 1911.
>> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>> Dorothy Natzke
>
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