[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Zochowo and Zandeko; Was RE: Villiage of Nietrzeba

[Jerry Frank]

I'm not Dave but I would like to comment.

If your information about Zochowo being near to Rypin comes from family 
lore rather than a document, you might have the right place.  It is only 
about 32 km SE of Rypin and the reference could have been to the province 
or parish.

I note that Uwe Kerntopf's site does not mention Zochowo though he does 
list Zuchowo, near Lipno.

I cannot find anything on a place named Zandeko but my resources for West 
Prussia are not as good as for South Prussia and Russian Poland.



At 06:20 PM 10/03/2004 +0100, Annegret Krause wrote:
>Hi Dave,
>could you help me to find two locations?
>The first: After WWI my grandparents were living in Zochowo. I heard it
>was near Rypin. But I could only find a village Zochowo near Sierpc.
>
>The second: The birthplace of my g-g-g-grandmother Dorota Pokrant was
>Zandeko pod Grudziadz. I couldn't find this location on any map.
>
>Annegret
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
>[mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Dave
>Obee
>Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:59 PM
>To: Jerry Frank; Ednadill at aol.com; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Villiage of Nietrzeba
>
>The proper name is Nietrzeba. It's about 12 km north of Lipno.
>
>Nietrzeba, osada mlynska, gmina Chrostkowo, Powait polityczny Rypin,
>Wojwodztwo Warszawa, Poczta i telegrapf (telefon) Wildno, Stacja kolj z
>odlegloascia km -- Lipno Plockie 12, autobuz linja Rypin-Kikol, and most
>importantly urzedy parafjalne Chrostkowo r, which is of course rz-kat or
>catholic.
>
>This is all from the Skorowidz Miejscowosci Rzeczpospolitej Polskiej,
>published in 1933-34.
>
>Nietrzeba is not shown in the modern 1:200,000 atlases, or even on the
>modern 1:100,000 grid map that covers that area, so either the name has
>changed or it has disappeared.
>
>Dave Obee
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jerry Frank" <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>
>To: <Ednadill at aol.com>; <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:15 AM
>Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Villiage of Nietrzeba
>
>
> > Erik sent me a copy of a couple of the records.  They have about the
>nicest
> > script I have ever seen on any record coming out of Poland.  The place
>name
> > is very clearly written as Nietrzeba.
> >
> > At this time, using several resources, I have not been able to find
>such a
> > place in the Lipno region.  There is no question about it being
>located
>166
> > miles from Lipno.  That simply would never happen on a regular basis.
>An
> > exception would be the recording in a marriage or death record of a
>place
> > of birth.  However, that would be contained within the record in
> > context.  The example records show Nietrzeba in the margin, indicating
>that
> > it is a local village.
> >
> > I did a general GOOGLE search for Nietrzeba.  It appears to be a
>relatively
> > common Polish surname.  It is possible, therefore, that this is the
>estate
> > name of a local nobleman which only existed for a short period of
>time.  I
> > am looking at some other sources and will report back if I find
>anything.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 09:29 AM 09/03/2004 -0500, Ednadill at aol.com wrote:
> > >Hello all,
> > >     Just a quick question.  I looked at more Lipno parish films
> > > yesterday.  I
> > >came up with a considerable amount with the village listed as
>Nietrzeba.
>I
> > >looked this village up on the ShtetlSeeker and the only one I found
>was
>51
> > >03 N
> > >21 54 E, 166.1 miles from Lipno.  Unless there is another Nietrzeba,
>why
> > >wouldn't these records have been recorded in Warsaw or closer
>parishes.
>The
> > >Michal Dyll that died on September 16 1855 in Nietrzeba, resided in
>Komorowo.
> > >     Any suppositions would be helpful.
> > >Regards,
> > >Erik Dill
> >
> > Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
> > FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca
> >
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