[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Dubno area information/Schoen, Hugert

[Jerry Frank]

I am sure you will have at least partial success using the St. Pete 
records.  Because there are some very unusual spelling variations for your 
family, I am going to suggest that you use the Pixel site to view them at 
http://pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/stpete/volhynia/

In the records, we find  Wilhelm Schoen and Karoline Langert having 
children at a place transcribed as Lalannaja which is certainly very close 
spelling to Selenaja especially when you consider that the S and L in old 
script are quite similar.  There is also a Huget family having children in 
that same village with many ? in the extractions of the region which 
suggest to me that the writing is difficult to read and this could very 
easily be Hugert.

My problem is that Lalannaja (now possibly Selenaja) is one of the villages 
I have never been able to find within Volhynia.  There is a clue in that 
the Huget family having children there also lived at Metnitze (= Mytnica) 
about 6 km south of Beresteczko and very near the border with Galicia.  The 
only places in the general region I can find that might be close to 
Selenaja spelling are Solonow and Silanowica.

I have noted that you show a difference in age between Wilhelm Jr. and his 
sister, Paulina of 28 years.  This would be extremely unusual if not 
impossible.



At 08:26 PM 06/04/2003 -0400, Cubcruiser at aol.com wrote:
>Jerry, thanks for the quick response.  I've been using the ShtetlSeeker 
>sight and have identified several possible cities.  Still working on 
>sorting out how close each is Dubno.
>
>Per your suggestion, I'm including family information.  My grandparents 
>and other known family members (from the Dubno (Selenaja?) area):
>
>Wilhelm Schoen (Schon) (born 10 Dec 1886)
>        Parents:  Wilhelm and Caroline
>        Brothers:  Karl (born abt. 1866 ), Johann (unknown birth, died 
> before 1911)
>        Sisters:  Paulina (born abt. 1858, Julia (born abt.1870)
>Wilhelmine Hugert (born 31 Aug 1892)
>        Parents: Georg and Katherine  (he was a shoe maker,
>                     she died when Wilhelmine was young, he remarried,
>                     Wilhelmine went to live with someone else)
>        Brothers:  John and Ferdinand (not positive about names)
>        Sisters:     We think there were two, unknown names
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Actually, the western half of Volhynia with Dubno in it was part of Poland
>between 1921 and WW II so both documents are correct based on the time
>frame in which they were created.
>
>Using ShtetlSeeker at http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm I
>can find quite a few Zelenaya in Ukraine but none in the area of
>Volhynia.  I also considered our list of known German settlements in
>Volhynia and could not find anything close in spelling.
>
>One possibility, though significantly different in spelling, is the village
>of Silanowica located about 32 km due west of Dubno.
>
>If you post other family details that you might have (names, birth dates,
>etc.) we may be able to help further.
>
>The best source of info online is the SGGEE website and its publications
>which you have already found because you subscribed to this mailing
>list.  However, it is often generalized for all of Volhynia and Russian
>Poland rather than specific to Dubno.  It is still the best source though
>for records and data.
>
>
>
>At 08:45 AM 06/04/2003 -0400, Cubcruiser at aol.com wrote:
> >I am researching my grandparents origins.  I believe they came from the
> >Dubno, Ukraine area, based on information I've found.  I would like to find
> >out if anyone knows of a good source of information on this specific area
> >(online or publications).  I'm also trying to identify the town from which
> >they came from.  From their 1912 ship manifest records, it appears to be
> >something like " Selenaja , Wolhyn, Russia ."  I tied this to the Dubno area
> >based on my grandfathers naturalization paperwork (late 1930s - early 
> 1940s),
> >which listed his hometown as Dubne, Poland.  (there is a Dubne, Poland 
> today,
> >but Dubno, Ukraine seemed to be the more likely candidate - geography,
> >agriculture, history, etc.).  He was German, a Lutheran and a farmer, and
> >served in the Russian military just prior to departing for the U.S.

Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
jkfrank at shaw.ca