<p>Just as a random note, has anyone heard of the rhyme: Ilse, Ilse, keiner wilse? !!</p><p> </p><p>Rita Lyster<br /><br /></p><p>On Jun 2, 2010, <strong>Günther Böhm</strong> <GHBoehm@ish.de> wrote: </p><div class="replyBody"><blockquote style="padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 1.8ex; border-left: #267fdb 2px solid">Eduardo Kommers schrieb:<br />> Hello!<br />><br />> Is there any suggestion of the origin place/country/region where the given name ILSE was more common, out of Volhynia?<br />> I'm asking this because I found a marriage record in Zhitomir from 1885, the bride was ILSE KOMMERS, anyway there is no other record with the name ILSE.<br />><br />> Thank you,<br />> Eduardo<br /><br />Hello Eduardo,<br />Ilse is an abbrevation of Elisabeth and has been quite common in all <br />Germany about hundred years ago. Some more centuries resp. decades back <br />the abbrevations were Ilsebe, Ilsabe and Ilsabein.<br />Ilse was also the given name of one of my aunts (born 1908, sister of my <br />father). Also the abbrevation Ilse is centuries older but was then just <br />in use by the higher nobility. In the central German Harz mountains you <br />find a river Ilse (and three others elsewhere), a town Ilsenburg and a <br />myth about a princess Ilse which was hunted by a count Bodo and on <br />horseback she happened to jump over a deep and wide valley whereas Bodo <br />crashed down into the depths. The earliest *real* Ilse I found is Ilse <br />von GERA, born after 1370, daughter of Heinrich V. von GERA, followed by <br />Ilsabe [Ilse] v.STEINBERG, * abt 1360, + after 1399.<br /><br />Günther<br /><br />_______________________________________________<br />Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by<br />Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe <a href="http://www.sggee.org" target="_blank" class="parsedLink">http://www.sggee.org</a><br />Mailing list info at <a href="http://www.sggee.org/listserv" target="_blank" class="parsedLink">http://www.sggee.org/listserv</a><br /></blockquote></div>