<P>The link to the "Trains, Shelters and Ships" article is: <A href="http://www.le.ac.uk/hi/teaching/papers/newman1.htm">http://www.le.ac.uk/hi/teaching/papers/newman1.htm</A></P>
<P>Karen<BR>
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<B>On Fri Jan 15 1:47 , Helen Gillespie <HGILLESPIE@ROGERS.COM>sent:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #f5f5f5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Found an interesting article on emigration from Eastern Europe, although much relates to Jewish emigration .....<BR>
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One branch of my Baier family emigrated from Volhynia via Riga (the train goes there from Aleksandrija Kr. Rowno) and thence to Liverpool before going to New York - arriving December 24 1904. From there to Benton Harbor, MI..... And curiously the ship's manifest listed them as the Menginger family - but all of their first name's and ages matched my Baier family - and their sponsor family was Menginger, so I figured the agent simplified the process and changed their names.<BR>
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--- On Fri, 1/15/10, Nelson Itterman <<A href="javascript:top.opencompose('colnels@telus.net','','','')">colnels@telus.net</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> From: Nelson Itterman <<A href="javascript:top.opencompose('colnels@telus.net','','','')">colnels@telus.net</A>></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Migration through England</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> To: "'Brandt Gibson'" <<A href="javascript:top.opencompose('ironhide781@hotmail.com','','','')">ironhide781@hotmail.com</A>>, <A href="javascript:top.opencompose('ger-poland-volhynia@eclipse.sggee.org','','','')">ger-poland-volhynia@eclipse.sggee.org</A></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 12:20 AM</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> My family boarded a train in Zhitomir</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> and went to Moscow then to Riga Latvia</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> and a ship to London, England, then by train to Liverpool</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> and a ship to St.</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> John, New Brunswick. I believe this was all arranged by the</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> CPR in Winnipeg.</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Nelson</SPAN><BR>
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<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> -----Original Message-----</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> From: <A href="javascript:top.opencompose('ger-poland-volhynia-bounces@eclipse.sggee.org','','','')">ger-poland-volhynia-bounces@eclipse.sggee.org</A></SPAN><BR>
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<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> On Behalf Of Brandt</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Gibson</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Sent: January-14-10 4:32 PM</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> To: <A href="javascript:top.opencompose('ger-poland-volhynia@eclipse.sggee.org','','','')">ger-poland-volhynia@eclipse.sggee.org</A></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Migration through England</SPAN><BR>
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<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Hi all, </SPAN><BR>
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<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> I'm looking for some help in tracing the emigration route</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> of my ancestors,</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Samuel and Pauline (Rosen) Joseph and their kids. They</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> arrived in Montreal,</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Quebec on October 5, 1910 on the S.S. Tunisian, which left</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Liverpool,</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> England a week or so before. I don't know when or how they</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> got to England,</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> and would appreciate any help anyone could offer on</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> researching this. The</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> only clues I have as to where they originated in Russia are</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> in the Canadian</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> border crossing records. In them, Sam stated he was from</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Olanuwka/Ulanowka</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> or Zitomar (depending on the record). </SPAN><BR>
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<SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">> Thanks!</SPAN><BR>
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